Deep Survival: #1 Gut Instincts - National Geographic ADVENTURE

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This is what I've personally been told from many different survivors after having to dig out one of their less fortunate members from avalanche debris.

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This is a useful exercise for many, but for others maybe not.But the overall system will take time before it changes.

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we've been coming (skiing, snowmobiling, etc.) here for years and have never seen an avalanche!" - This is what I've personally been told from many different survivors after having to dig out one of their less fortunate members from avalanche debris. These group's previous positive experience led them down a very narrow decision making process which ultimately (unavoidably?) killed thier friends.
For organizations there are even more factors to consider. You mentioned motivators or drivers in decision making (and even got away with calling us apes!) but you also have to consider a groups safety culture, how a decision is made (by an individual, by the one accepting the risk, or by management), and how systematic is risk being assessed.

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“he’d never before phoned us at home to ask for a personal update.” Fesler told him to “avoid steep north-facing slopes like the plague.”

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The mountaineering activity is a drama of success and failure that have provided impetus to more men to meet the ultimate adventure.

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A lot of mountain climbers has been very successful with this kind of expedition. However, in order to accomplish the toughest journey every climber has to keep in mind safety.

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Fesler told him to “avoid steep north-facing slopes like the plague.”

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I will be discussing this in future columns. When a bureaucracy is involved, it gets ugly, because bureaucracies teach people to practice nonsense. And practicing nonsense leads to nonsensical behavior.

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Just read this and have to say I find it Interesting. It was I that invited Todd to ski that day, it was the day before my birthday and wanted to go ski with a group of our friends. I worked with Todd and lived across the street from He and Jenny. I would say that Todd was not trying to regain any status. If we had just gone to Alpenglow and Lift access skied as he wanted and not back country as I wanted he would be alive, perhaps. I regret this day every day of my life.

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The unconscious rule of decision-making is that the past equals the future, and that we tend to do what we’ve been rewarded for doing

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I've also found it is more important to evaluate an entire groups safety record rather th

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"we've been coming (skiing, snowmobiling, etc.) here for years and have never seen an avalanche!"

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I find this topic very interesting and pertinent as I have found myself in situations that "could have ended badly."
There were two items in the December 2007 National Geograpic Adventure magazine that I quoted on this very topic.
http://sanddollaradventures.wordpress.com/2008/03/14/adventure-travel-sports-part-ii/

LF

very thought provoking...read it on the way back from a Backcountry ski trip....thanks for a very good read

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i am the former director of the Decision, Risk and Management Sciences Program at the National Science Foundation. Here's what I wrote when Danny Kahneman won the Nobel Prize in economics in 2002 for his research on confirmation bias, etc.
http://www.sjdm.org/mail-archive/jdm-society/2002-October/001335.html

This essay is the best popularization of decision science ideas I have ever seen.

ridersho

Laurence- I'm with ya... especially "The only way around that[behaving like mammals]is to be aware of it and to stop and consciously assess risk." comment.
It's easy to point out the potential for a bureaucracy to become "nonsensical" in making risk decisions, I'm sure we could share examples... but I think it's important to note that bureaucracies have also given us some of the best examples of successfully assessing risk in a systematic and methodical fashion. Whether it's a government bureau or a group of bc skiiers I think it really depends on the culture and the leadership.
looking forward to your future articles. (2% difference huh?, I've got some friends that make me question that much of a spread!)

Laurence Gonzales

Hi, Ridersho, and thanks for writing.

Yes, you're right: Groups are much more complex than individuals in the way they make decisions. I will be discussing this in future columns. When a bureaucracy is involved, it gets ugly, because bureaucracies teach people to practice nonsense. And practicing nonsense leads to nonsensical behavior.

But at a more basic level, it is in the nature of all mammals to operate on a primary heuristic in which the future is assumed to look like the past. This means that we unconsciously make this assumption: If it hasn't happened to me, it won't ever happen.

We may not believe that explicitly and intellectually, but we'll be very likely to behave as if we do believe it. The only way around that is to be aware of it and to stop and consciously assess risk. If you're at the beach on Kauai, for example, and the life guard tells you there's a dangerous rip current, you're emotional response may be: Heck, I swim here all the time. The rip current doesn't care about your past experience. Be a believer. The advice is: Take the advice.

A note on apes: There is no disagreement among legitimate scientists today about our lineage. We are the most recent species of ape. Some suggest that we should either be designated as a variant of the chimpanzee, Pan, or that chimpanzees should be classified as a variety of Homo. The difference in genetic makeup between us and the chimpanzee and the bonobo (once called the pigmy chimpanzee) is less than two percent.


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"we've been coming (skiing, snowmobiling, etc.) here for years and have never seen an avalanche!" - This is what I've personally been told from many different survivors after having to dig out one of their less fortunate members from avalanche debris. These group's previous positive experience led them down a very narrow decision making process which ultimately (unavoidably?) killed thier friends.
For organizations there are even more factors to consider. You mentioned motivators or drivers in decision making (and even got away with calling us apes!) but you also have to consider a groups safety culture, how a decision is made (by an individual, by the one accepting the risk, or by management), and how systematic is risk being assessed.
I've also found it is more important to evaluate an entire groups safety record rather than the statistics associated with a singular activity. I've seen groups with apparantly a perfect safety record kill a member and and go on to say "we've never seen that happen before", when in reality it was an accident waiting to happen.
I've love to see future articles address this more- perhaps introducing mitigation techniques... Thanks for the article.

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